Sharing Is Caring –
Around The World
PANAMA CITY
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Eltern-Werden heisst Verantwortung zu übernehmen. In Form von Carearbeit als auch in Form der Versorgung einer Familie. Welchen Aufgaben wir uns dabei auch stellen – ob Job oder Kinder – wir müssen Entscheidungen gemeinsam treffen. Auch wie wir diese untereinander aufteilen. Wir haben Eltern auf der ganzen Welt gefragt, wie sie dies tun, welche Hürden es gibt, wie sie sie lösen und was ihre Tipps dazu sind. Heute geht es nach Panama City.
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Paola Elizaga (33) is an online marketing coach for female entrepreneurs and has a podcast named “Negocios Entre Pañales” (Business Between Diapers). Her husband Andrés Hurtado (39) works in the Consumer Market Knowledge area of P&G. They had a daughter called Martina (3) and Paola was 9 month pregnant with Nicolas, when we talked to each other.
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How do you divide the working time and childcare time between you in your family?
I used to work at P&G as well, however when Martina was born, I couldn’t conceive the idea of being outside of home for so many hours and having to leave my daughter at a daycare. I had always wanted to become an entrepreneur (already had a personal blog and a social media website where I shared tips and tutorials), but it was until Martina was 6 months, that I got the encouragement to leave my corporate job and start my personal business. At first I worked during nights and her nap times and was with her all day. My first job was managing the Community Management of a catering business in Panama. After some months, I had more Community Management accounts and also started giving Online Marketing workshops to other entrepreneurs that wanted to work from home and grow their businesses online.
Today I have created my courses online and more than 300 women have taken them. This is super important for me as I really believe in helping other women work from home so that they don’t have to choose between a career and a family life, they can have both as long as they have flexible times.
Now Martina goes to school 4 hours during the day, and I work during those hours and take care of her the rest of the day. If I have any remaining stuff I’ll do it at night. When my husband gets home from work he bathes her and puts her to bed, that’s where I work more time and sometimes during the weekends when he takes care of her.
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Have you discussed these issues as part of family planning? Or was it always clear for you both?
It was a process that we both had to learn. We really want to be involved in the parenting of our kids and it has not been easy, specially because as an entrepreneur I started doing everything by myself (design, management, hiring, invoices, content creation) and this was super time consuming.
We try to divide the work as much as possible, however I’m the one that has the most flexible hours and therefore I am more with our daughter. Now that our son will be born it will totally change our settled dynamics so we will have to see how things work.
What is the standard model in Panama (City), how do your friends with kids manage it?
Most kids are left with a nanny or in daycare while both parents are working. Moms get approximately 4 months of maternity leave. I really respect this decision as I believe everyone should choose what makes them the happiest, however I found out this dynamic was not meant for me and I really want to help other women who feel the same.
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Most kids are left with a nanny or in daycare while both parents are working. Moms get approximately 4 months of maternity leave. I really respect this decision as I believe everyone should choose what makes them the happiest, however I found out this dynamic was not meant for me and I really want to help other women who feel the same.
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Meanwhile, Nicholas was born.
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What’s your advice so that it works with as little pain and frustration as possible?
In the case of Latin America I’ve seen that it is common for us women to absorb all of the housework, childcare and sometimes even the work outside of home. This leaves women super tired. Little by little we have to learn how to delegate and really trust our partners in housework and child care. It is important both for kids and for our personal development.
My advice to parents, so that it works with as little pain and frustration, is to make sure both are being involved in parenting roles and housework. Its normal for working moms to absorb as well the kidswork + housework and this makes it super tiring. If there is good communication between partners then this is easier. And also keep in mind always that it is just a phase that will pass, eventually kids will sleep a full night, they will play by themselves and sit still at restaurants without making a disaster at the table. It’s a phase, enjoy it and live the chaos joyfully!
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What is the appreciation of kids and having children in Panama or Latin America in general?
Regarding the appreciation of kids, it is very common in Latin America to have kids. It is rare to find people that say that they don’t want to have kids (contrary to Europe), but it is starting to happen little by little specially by very successful women.
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Regarding the appreciation of kids, it is very common in Latin America to have kids. It is rare to find people that say that they don’t want to have kids (contrary to Europe), but it is starting to happen little by little specially by very successful women.
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Eventually kids will sleep a full night, they will play by themselves and sit still at restaurants without making a disaster at the table. It’s a phase, enjoy it and live the chaos joyfully!
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Thank you so much Paola. We wish you all the best.
Pics: Private and from Paolas Instagram account @pawichiz.
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